Software Engineering and The Default Destination of Coding Outsourcing

There is no dispute that India and Indians intellectuals are main contributors for theories and best practices in software engineering for the last decades, in addition to the fact that they are the largest practicers in this fields. India is the main destination when US firms looking for off-shore coding resources. Indian also provided the largest software engineers population to the US. In the year of 2012, 49,000 Indians were granted H1B visa to work in Hi-tech US firms, mostly as software developers. In comparison, 7,000 Chinese received these type of visa. The largest Indian company in the US was a consulting company to help US firms find a proper match for coding service providers in India. And not surprisingly, the signature policy piece of the Obama Administration, the Obamacare website was actually coded in India.

Software Engineering has little to do with software development per ce. Rather, it's a specialization of system engineering into software development, to enable mass scale collaboration on a given project. Each participants can be trained with only minimum of technical skills, thus finish the job at a minimum cost.

The idea sounds promising and encouraging. However, many US companies found the quality of the code unacceptable. Quality control is achieved by modular testing through APIs (application programming interface). What's inside a module are often ignored, or swiped under the carpet for the sake of progress. The end result is often a project that works at the time of delivery, but totally not maintainable due to back code quality stemed from coders's poor technical skills.

Indian American Professor Spearheaded in Boycotting Israel

Under leadership of its past president Rajini Srikanth, Associate Professor in Asian American Studies at University of Massachusetts Boston, the Association for Asian American Studies (AAAS) passed a secret ballot resolution to endorsing the boycott of Israeli universities.

The current president for the association distant herself from the resolution.

University of Central Florida Gunner Traced Back to South India

Indian based International Business Times studiedthe gunman's family background, and traced it back to South India subcontenent.

James Oliver Seevakumaran was hailed as the 'first would-be east Indian mass killer'. Prior to this incident, an Indian based mass killer had already been recognized in Canada, when a Sikh-Canadian man named Kimveer Gill killed one person and wounded another 19 at a shooting spree at Dawson College in Montreal in September 2006.

Indian Doctor Executed by a Chinese Doctor

Dr. Wang took justice in his own hands and drove 1000 miles to shot an Indian doctor. It made headline news.

What did not make headline, although they do appeared online WSJ:

7:31 pm April 27, 2010

sally wrote:
Although, the guy is dead, and it is not good to speak ill of the dead, I have no doubt that he probably humilated other residents. I am an American, and I have seen many of the Indian doctors and they literally have no respect for anybody else. I have seen where they lie to get somebody fired and even reported to the national physician data bank with their lies. It is sad, they literally have no integrity.

8:12 pm April 27, 2010

roy wrote:
i trained at johns hopkins medical center. saw how arrogant some of these indian mds are . maybe this incident will make them think twicw before they utter humiliating commments that sprung from curry infested tongues they have

8:38 pm April 27, 2010

bill wrote:
as a hospital administrator, I have seen alot, and many of the Indian md are alright, but usually they are the muslims, the ones that give us the most trouble are the brahmin elitiist type. i once was told that as a foreigner, i was an untouchable to him

9:24 pm April 27, 2010

bj wrote:
I was working in hr in a large metro hospital in Chicago several years back and I remember that there was an exellent doctor who was accused by the head of her department, from India, and several of his friends of incompetence.

The thing was though they had made it all up. The Chief of Staff fortunately actually investigated and fired these bozos.

9:50 pm April 27, 2010

Tom wrote:
I have met too many Indian liars. Just google their resume

11:53 pm April 27, 2010

Beware of Indians Nearest You wrote:
Nobody beats them when it comes to ass-kissing.

12:26 am April 28, 2010

Frank Joe wrote:
From life experience instead of guess, some, if not all, Indian guys are kind of rude and cheating. They are completely toady before their managers/directors or any other upper layers in a company/social hierarchy; at the same time they are natural liars and very mean, if not evil, to their coworkers or people in lower ranks. To these Indians it is so typical a practice to bad mouth coworkers behind their back and claim the latter’s credits all the time to get promotion or other benefits. For these people, I’d rather shug my shoulders and go away. No need to risk my life/family on these junks.

God bless America! God bless Dr. Wang and his family.

12:58 am April 28, 2010

lol wrote:
Dr. Wang didn’t stab in the back, he actually fired in the liar’s face. Hope Dr. Wang’s sacrificing himself will give those liars a lesson

2:07 am April 28, 2010

EricC wrote:
Don’t want to generalize too much, i worked with people from all around the world, most of them are decent, professional people. But watch your back around indians coworkers, especially the one who are born and raised in india. It is an adivice you can take it to the bank.

2:41 am April 28, 2010

Papercut wrote:
I have worked with Indians in many capacity. I would not give a damn what they say. You can even smell lies. However, they get their way.

I have no intention to compare Chinese against Indian. But, often I encounter Chinese colleagues who are too “passionate” or “serious” about what they have done. And they will do anything to prove themselves. While the people from India will take it easy, they just lie and bring others down, and then make an easy living

2:58 am April 28, 2010

Tim wrote:
When I worked in HR a while ago, we hired as many Indians as possible to fill our Marketing/sales positions, and they increase our revenue even the dying product lines!

4:39 am April 28, 2010

Linda wrote:
My life experience taught me: never trust Indians!

They looks and talks very politely, but never hesitate to lie. They promise at the beginning and get tons of excuses not to deliver at the end, and always blame other people for any mistakes. Of course, all the credit always belong to themselves no matter how much others do.

I saw resumes of Indians that works for Indian owned consulting company, they list all long, fancy experiences, but the candidate can not answer the simplest tech questions. All lie!

8:19 am April 28, 2010

terry wrote:
I don’t want generalize, but I work at Children’s Hospital in Milwaukee and there was some big wig doc, who never met the truth, and who’s wife embezelled $31 million from Koss Corporation over 5 years, and they are from India. From the outside they seem moral and ethical but they have issues with the honesty and definitely lack of integrity.

9:35 am April 28, 2010

bill wrote:
Recently, the Inspector General had to investigate gross medical error by the head of medical imaging at Visn 12 in the VA. Appparently, he tried to hide it and the patient died. This Indian doc then concocted false allegations against a female doc who reported his incompetence and got her fired. Read it for yourselft. http://www4.va.gov/oig/54/reports/VAOIG-09-01348-49.pdf

10:12 am April 28, 2010

what goes around comes around wrote:
experience with indian: her dog ran barking toward my 3-year old son when we were entering the elevator. I shielded him and didn’t look happy, then unbelievably I heard her saying: “If you look at my dog that way, why don’t you take another elevator?” I was shocked, and questioned her what was her problem and why doesn’t she take another evevator since her dog scared my son. She rediculously answered that she was in the elevator first. Meanwhile her dog was still jumping on my shopping bag. Anyway I got to my floor and hold the door to tell her that she better shorten her leash and control her dog in the future, incredibly she shouted “Get out, psycho!” certainly I called back. But what’s funny and dramatically was after I complained to the condo management it “concluded” that I was more at fault, basically ignoring the fact she provoked and she initiated name calling. Now I was perceived as overreacting, using vogue language while my son around. I don’t know how she managed to achieve that with the people. Luckily that it was not a case and no judge would be cherry-picking testimonies without being tested. The condo management even told me that she was now scared of me. What the heck is that? She seems to be the victim now, lol.

I guess I should have just pretended of hearing mad dog barking in the first place, surely I will avoid dealing with them to avoid all the fuss. Overall I guess some people have made their own country in such a mess with those charactors, now they are mess with other people. Certainly they would get away in short term, however as the saying goes: what goes around comes around.

11:10 am April 28, 2010

Jason wrote:
Sorry to sat that, but now I don’t believe any indian… they are lazy and they pretend to be nice and working hard… And they’re biggest liars…

11:29 am April 28, 2010

Sabrina Ng wrote:
I have had an Indian coworker in a hospital in New York during my fellow training. He can always manage to dump the work to me and claim the credit in front of the chief. I am not the only one who was tricked by him.

12:20 pm April 28, 2010

Jackson wrote:
Indian are very strange people based upon my experience with them in both acadeimia and hospitals, specifically their double-faces, they claimed to be your friends all the time but stab your behind you back. It is really hard for me to understand them.

So for Asian, I respect Japanese, Chinese, Vietmese……, but NEVER INDIAN FROM INDIAN SUBCONTINENT.

BTW, I complele respect native american indian.

and NYDailyNews

Boozwa

9:20 PM Apr 27, 2010
Yes, I agree. I don't mean to group them all, but The average India born and raised have been from my experience, from college Profs to store clerks to doctors and to those who I have worked with, are some of the most rude and condescending people I have ever come across. When it comes to Doctors, I avoid them like the plague.

joytih

11:06 PM Apr 27, 2010
Apparently, if he filed a lawsuit claiming that he was harrassed by Indian doctors- this set him off. I can tell you that working in a hospital,some of Indian doc's are totally disrespectful and I have seen them lie against other doctors who are not Indian. I would like to what lied about in this guy's case

Does the caste system have anything to do with how the Indian doctors disrespect other people?

As a matter of fact, Dr. Wang did pursue legal venues first by filing discrimination (by Indian administration to Chinese fellows) complaint first to the Kingsbrook Jewish Medical Center (EEOC No. 520-2008-04172) where both him and the Indian doctor was employed, and then to the court (District Court, Eastern District of New York, 1:09-03236-JG-SMG). The hospital dismissed the discrimination case, using the logic that since that 50% of their doctors are from Indian, they won't discriminate against Chinese.

What kind of logic is that, by the way?

East West Education

Korean government had its hand on another social target. This time, it tried to set a curfew of 10:00 pm for cram schools in Korea. Usually they would go beyond 11:00 pm, and sometimes even over the midnight line. Koreans are not known for hard working, at least not as Japanese students. However, New York Times (Losing an Edge, Japanese Envy India’s Schools) reported that Japanese parents felt Japanese students are not hard working enough yet, so they hired Indian teachers to teach their kids. Now, Japanese toddlers under Indian teachers are learning calculus in kindergartens.

The US has been getting away from its crappy public school system by harvesting talents from all over the world with lucrative financial support in graduate schools. Most of these foreign students stay in the US because of job opportunities. For example, the Washington Post article (U.S. Colleges Bask in Surge Of Interest Among Chinese) reported a uprising influx from Chinese high school graduates to apply for US colleges. Year 2008 saw a nearly double increment in US undergraduate enrollment of students from mainland China, from 9,000 in 2007 to 16,000 in 2008. The problem, it's unlikely they will stay this time, unlike what has been the case for decades. On one hand, the US is struggling with sky rocket unemployment rate, and politicians are making policies to make more jobs for US citizens by kicking out more foreign high tech workers. On the other hand, Asian countries are enjoying a more robust economic growth and flourishing career opportunities. It was reported that almost all 50 some member of the graduate class of Chinese students in the Duke MBA program this year are leaving to China. Taking away with them are the knowledge and experiences that they would need to fence off their US classmates in the real world in the years to come.

London Tower is Falling Down...

Indian American Named U.S. CTO

Aneesh Chopra was named the CTO of the United States. This echos Obama's earlier choice for the nation's CIO, Mr. Vivek Kundra. Both Chopra and Kundra are Indian Americans.

Another Indian, Sanjay Gupta walked away from the nomination of the Surgeon General citing personal financial considerations. Gupta made his career and fortune by siding with big pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies on every issue.

In the rival camp, though hailed as presidential potential, Indian American Piyush 'Bobby' Jindal, the governor of State of Louisiana became the youngest governor in 2007. Many see him a front runner of presidential election in 2012 and 2016.

Vivek Kundra was born in New Delhi. His family immigrated to the US from Tanzania when he was age 11. Kundra grew up in Gaithersburg, MD. Kundra pled guilty to a petty theft charge for stealing four shirts from a JC Penny store in 1997. Kundra ran away but was caught after a brief foot chase. On March 12, 2009, Kundra's former DC CTO offices were raided by FBI on corruption charges.

More Chinese Amerians, Less Voting Power

40,017 Chinese because naturalized US citizens in 2008, a big jump of 21% over the previous year. However, these people represents a dwindling percentage of the entire immigrants population. Total number of naturalized US citizens grew by 60% in the same time period. 232K Mexicans topped the list, which is followed by 66K Indians and 59K Filipinos.

Obama's CIO Raided by FBI

Vivek Kundar, who had been tapped to be the Obama Administration's Chief Information Officer was raided by FBI on corruption related investigation.

Sanjay Gupta, who had been tapped by Obama to be the Surgeon General withdrew from the nomination after mulling about it for a week.

So far so good Obama's Bollywood complexion.

A program on today's POTUS urged any potential Obama nominees to pay their outstanding federal tax before April 15th.

Macaca Gang Fights in Parliament

Former Virginia government and senator George Allen was caught on tape introducing an Indian descendant stalker from his opponent (Jim Webb)'s campaign the 'Macaca', and subsequently lost his 2006 reelection campaign as well as his once hailed presidential aspiration. Allen was not the first career politician stepped on his own foot for telling the truth, but he was in the first one stabbed by the YouTube phenomena. The one seat flip also tipped the balance of the Senate and gave control to the Democrats.

Well, there could be time when (even domesticated) macacas find it hard to cover their tails. Had camera phones been allowed in Indian Parliament by 2006, Allen probably could have a chance to prove his point. Now Allen is probably rolling all over in his retiree housing.;-)

Perception of Chinese Around the World

A BBC Survey of the perception of Chinese in varies countries shows Americans and Koreans are most hostile towards Chinese, while Americans tend to blame it on the government. Apparently the British have best luck getting laid in Beijing. Indians are the only group of people envy on the freedom Chinese enjoy in China. In general, BBC concluded, it did not seem people in the rest of the world see Chinese a dominant threat to the world.

Toilet Stories

Indians who used to release themselves on open streets were paid to cover up when they were doing the 'thing'. In this CNN photo, "a slum resident in India uses a toilet that opens into the water below as children swim."

While the Beijing government tried to meet the peak of the Olympic tourists rush by building more public restrooms, Indian government are facing an opposite challenge. That is, how to attract residents, who had been used to the convenience of doing it on streets, to use toilets.

Reuters reported that Indian government were bribing Indians to use toilets instead of releasing themselves on the street. Indians could earn about $1 per month if they went to public toilets enough times.

Indian Immigrants Dominated PERM

In the first half year of 2008, 24,300 PERMs were granted. Applicants came from 150 countries and regions, but Indians dominated the pool with 8127 approved cases, followed by Chinese 1809, Korean 1654, Filipinos 1631, Mexican 1461, Canadian 1340.

Indians: Fastest Growing Illegal Immigrants

Although 7 million Mexicans made up the majority of illegal immigrants in the US, Indians has more potential to take up the top illegal immigrants spot if the trend continues. There were about 120,000 illegal Indian immigrants in the US in 2000, while the number has grown to 270,000 in 2006 which converts to an increase of 125%.

What Matters (Chinese in America) ?

The State Department published the visa bulletin for April 2008, in which vast amount of visa numbers are assigned to Indian born EB3 applicants. This is a big slap on the face to Chinese immigrants, mostly skilled high tech workers with advanced degrees who are in EB2 category. The positive side of the incident serves as a wake up call to Chinese immigrants community. Within 24 hours, an advocacy group Legal Immigrant Association (LIA) received more than $30,000 donations to be paid on lobbying effort and possible law suit against the State Department as the April bulletin violated the fair principle mandated by SECTION 202(5) RULES FOR EMPLOYMENT-BASED IMMIGRANTS. This may be a history making, pivoting moment in the history of Chinese immigrants.

Indians Blinded by Sun

BBC News reported that at least 50 Indians Catholics had their eyes burned, many blinded after gazing at the sun looking for trace of the virgin Mary.

Traditional Hinduisms often put pain on their body for redemption. They will climb on the top of sail then gaze at the sun for days, until fall to the river after starvation or being disoriented.

Indian Labors Out Numbered and Out Paid Chinese Workers

According to numbers released by the Labor Department, 85,000 PERM were issued to applicants from 176 countries and areas in FY2007, among which 55,214 are H-1B type visa intended for solving the shortage of high-skilled workers, mostly in the Informational Technology field.

PERM issued in FY2007

	Indian	Chinese
Total Number	24573	6846
Average Salary	$75,646	$63,585

Comparing the top 2 populations in high-tech immigrants. Chinese are better trained (4 times PhD owners over Indian), doing advanced work (much higher EB2/EB3 ratio), but paid much less. For Chinese, there are much to learn besides work skills.

PERM is an abbreviation of Permanent Employment Certification. Category EB2 type visa is issued to applicants holding advanced skills or graduate degrees, while EB3 for normal workers.

Where have all the H1B gone?

Where have all the H1B gone? Gone to Indians everyone. According to a Business Week report, seven out of ten largest H1B applicants are Indian consulting companies (ICC).

Among well known ICCs, there are HDD, Marlabs, Wirpo, BCG.

Indian American Better Educated and Wealthier

According to figures recently released by the Census Bureau, 68.2% of the Indian American population hold bachelor or higher degrees, while only 52.4% of Chinese Americans hold bachelor or higher degrees. The median household income of Indian American families is $73,575, while the corresponding number for Chinese American families is $59.571.

Indian also has more students studying in the US. Last year, there's 76,503 Indian students studying in the US, while the corresponding number for Chinese is 62,582 (mainland).