Monday, March 21, 2011

Google's Croporate Culture Questioned on Online Behavior of One Employee

An online ID 'wolver' who self-identified as a Google employee scolded another online ID of the MITBBS for sharing her interview experience at Google. 'Wolver' accused the ID for violating the NDA clause, in particular the interview questions, and threatened to report the incident to Google's Human Resource unless he is offered 'a reason'.

The wolver's action triggered a heated discussion, where some praised his action as a loyal employee, many thought it an overreaction because similar information were abundant in many websites such as careercup, even in many published books. MIT even has a course in which Google interview questions are deconstructed and analyzed.

The discussion went awry when many discussed wolver's originality (a typical troll question in Chinese forums), and many found it unsurprising that 'wolver' was "born and raised in Shanghai". Some questioned the necessity for 'wolver' to write in both languages, English first, and Chinese translation follows in a paragraph by paragraph fashion. Many light jokes and laughers made this subject a most talked about topic (a 'mega water drain' in BBS terminology) on the popular online forum, but soon it became obvious that the incident was potentially a serious matter with deep implications.

It could be a textbook offense of Policy 55. Some suspected whether 'wolver's writing to the interviewee had been authorized by his employer and whether it amounted to work place sexual harassment (as the original poster was a female) against a younger and lower ranked female employee. Some expressed concern over 'wolver's bragging of his intimate relationship with some at Google's human resource department, and doubt whether that's a healthy organizational culture.

Some questioned whether the entire company is so obsessed with self righteousness to the extend of being pretentious. The most frequent word seen in related discussions was zhuangbility. While one ID identified as a Google employee expressed dismay of having a co-worker like 'wolver', many outsiders suggested 'wolver' represented a corporate culture of zhuangbility at Google.

From a legal point of view, some readers believed 'wolver' had already committed a crime in the form of blackmailing, citing following threat, 'so please give me a reason why I should not report you to the HR and rescind your offer immediately.' Some believed 'Wolver' intentionally backed up his threat while bragging his personal ties with HR personnels. Wolver's characterization of his connections with HR personnels as 'friends' instead of 'colleagues' is criminally damaging, because it substantiated the threat behind his demand in the message to the female interviewee, 'give me a reason why I should not report you'. The 'shock and awe' choice to use a public letter instead of utilizing the (often conceived mild and more benign) 'private message' channel of the online forum might reflect a calculated intention to pragmatically create a high pressure to force the interviewee to fulfill wolver's demand in a rush without fully assessing the situation. In replying other's question, Wolver hinted, 'I am giving her a chance'. A prosecutor would not need much imagination to figure out what had Wolver been expecting.

The true identity of the Google employee was not clear at this time. However, while some suspect the person's name is Cong Yu, a New York City based research scientist at Google, Cong Yu, using online ID 'tntt' posted on the forum that he knew the true identify of 'wolver', but he decided not to provide further information. Some suspect Cong Yu was indeed 'wolver' himself.
wolver (没有) 于 (Sat Mar 19 15:12:23 2011, 美东) 提到:

同学,

(这是关于你的置顶文章, 本来因该私人信件的,但是给后来者一个警告也好)

First, you should know that you have signed an NDA with Google at the beginning of the on-site interview and things that were said and discussed during the interview (particularly the interview questions) were covered under the NDA.

第一,你应该知道你面试的时候签过NDA,所有面试过程中说的都是覆盖的,尤其是这些面试题目。

Second, you are already doing damages to Google before you even started. Once those interview questions are disclosed on high traffic sites such as here, they will be immediately banned as interview questions, which puts extra burdens on the engineers and the HR team to come up with alternative good questions.

第二,这些题目,一旦在流量大的网站上泄密了,内部就会被禁掉,需要大量的精力去制作新的考题。

Google has a very open culture and therefore also a very high expectation of how employees should behave with regard to confidentiality. Any leak is a just cause for firing immediately (just search for "Google Fires Employee Who Leaked Memo On Raises")

Google的文化是很开放的,员工知道很多在别的公司不会知道的事。正因为如此,Google对保密很重视,任何泄密都可以立刻炒掉。

So, please give me a reason why I should not report you to the HR and rescind your offer immediately. NYC site is not as big as MTV and I don't think it will take long to find out who you are after HR is notified.

所以,请你给我一个理由,为什么我不应该立刻把你报告给人力资源部。纽约的分部并不大,你是两月16号面试的,而且知道你的所有的题目和面试人员的特征,我想很快可以找到。

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wolver (没有) 于 (Sat Mar 19 16:56:27 2011, 美东) 提到:

请勿须操心,我和几个HR的人交往很多,都是好几年的朋友了

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wolver (没有) 于 (Sat Mar 19 17:34:26 2011, 美东) 提到:

I am giving her a chance.

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wolver (没有) 于 (Sat Mar 19 20:02:58 2011, 美东) 提到:

谢谢提醒,我想HR知道应该怎么做的。

我的职责也不过是告诉HR有这么一件事,至于下面怎么回事就不是我能管的了。HR懂中文很多,不用我来翻译的。
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发信人: icecool1748 (ICE), 信区: JobHunting
标 题: Re: 有人有备份吗?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Mar 20 10:47:09 2011, 美东)

我看丫h1b才8万多的base,让我很shock,真是奴才命主子的责任感。

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发信人: thex (耗子), 信区: JobHunting
标 题: Re: job版那个傻逼已经被人肉出来啦,大家快去看 (转载)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Mar 20 12:11:07 2011, 美东)

【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: thex (耗子), 信区: Military
标 题: Re: job版那个傻逼已经被人肉出来啦,大家快去看
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Mar 20 12:10:46 2011, 美东)

其实这个家伙也怪可怜的,google的风格就是装B. 公司做生意,码工干活挣工资都是人之常情。结果google和里面的员工都出来装B。

google装B被土共一下子打回原形。这个wolfer咋办啊?!凭他的脸蛋出来裸奔个高清我认为大家就应该放手给他个重新做人的机会。
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发信人: malan (三民主义救中国), 信区: JobHunting
标 题: 从不认为google是什么非常好的选择。
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Mar 20 04:56:43 2011, 美东)

看了这种2B,更坚定了这个想法。
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发信人: tuxedos (tuxedos), 信区: JobHunting
标 题: 古歌这种公司
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Mar 20 03:08:30 2011, 美东)

不断在走下坡路啊,search market share不断下降,盈利产品单一,经营目标转为推广所谓民主,员工自以为是. 真是烂啊....
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发信人: astro (桃谷六仙@英俊中年), 信区: JobHunting
标 题: 这个 wolver 不单是被fire的问题,应该进监狱
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Mar 19 21:26:31 2011, 美东)

看看it说的,典型的blackmail 啊。去wiki上随便一翻,blackmail是 up to one year in prison.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackmail#United_States_law

准备请律师吧。

So, please give me a reason why I should not report you to the HR and rescind your offer immediately. NYC site is not as big as MTV and I don't think it will take long to find out who you are after HR is notified.

所以,请你给我一个理由,为什么我不应该立刻把你报告给人力资源部。纽约的分部并不大,你是两月16号面试的,而且知道你的所有的题目和面试人员的特征,我想很快可以找到。

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发信人: bixu1 (2-39), 信区: JobHunting
标 题: Re: 大家好,事件澄清
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Mar 20 17:35:06 2011, 美东)

wolver

考虑用户发帖版面信息

排名 疑似马甲 IP相似分 发贴版面相似分 总分
1 cadreaming 0.759835685652 0.856620911317 2.06161796064
2 jzxdjzxb 0.854574012792 0.405461449839 1.54756764924
3 monzonite 0.67684772829 0.612808133186 1.50640331394
4 rossby 0.681590457749 0.496013946834 1.35774720389
5 tntttt 0.583272585263 0.533617277387 1.20576124311
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